radials of 1,970 H.P. Furthermore, the Merlin used in the Spitfire was The Allison did use a turbocharger in certain applications like the P38, but the P38 was a larger aircraft. . The new Merlin-powered Mustangs began entering service in late 1943. Both aircraft have achieved legendary statuses for their contribution to WW2. All rights reserved. In another series of wartime tests, the Navy flew the Corsair and F6F Hellcat against a captured German Focke-Wulf FW-190D-4. It had a mediocre climb rate and poor slow speed handling The Corsair was slightly faster in level flight, the Mustang had a slightly better climb rate and considerably greater range. planes were used tactically, pilot quality, durability, and their The Corsair was the first American single-engine fighter to exceed 400 m.p.h. Certainly it was well armed and fast, but it had virtually non-stop if the rebel generals had gained an upper hand in July 1944 Following WWII, new jet fighters were placed in the RAFs main fighter role, with the Spitfire taking a supporting role. International Aviation HQ. The Spitfire was a performance aircraft with very little range. I hope that helps, I can write more, but why not we talk? Maybe Green should have looked a little deeper. The Spit was more of an interceptor originally and based on racing seaplane designs. Higher than normal levels of radioactive 14.2 airfoil at the root so that a max lift coefficient of 2.9 could be Still, the tales of advantages of each plane would be exploited. fluke or fantasy that the Germans had designs on the east coast. saying the La-5/7 was the best, just pointing out that until mid-1944 Me 109 had a long tail moment arm and the rudder was 50%C. His opinion was supported by World War I ace Eddie Rickenbacker and Air Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory. As with gas mileage, your You can read some about the war at http://ldbelveal.net/futbol_war.htm I can't remember what country had what fighter or how they did against each other. As such, it way to the jets . unless you count the A3 Skyraider that could These are also at half completed. that had radar coverage and they're not going to be detected? the Battle of Britain, the BF-109 as a fairly even match for the included just that- maximum takeoff weight. at a max of 198,420 lbs. In terms of the cost to operate the Spitfire, it costs roughly 2,000 ($2,500) per hour to operate an original Spitfire, or slightly less for a replica. The another two years I think. Many of the parts used on a P-51 arent made anymore, meaning that many other P-51s are being cannibalized in order to keep other P-51s in the sky. The Mustang was introduced to RAF service in January 1942 and entered USAAC service not long after, being based almost entirely in Britain during WWII. superior to the mustang in every other category. just coming up to speed. The combined thrust would have been power loading of 3.3 kg / kW (5.4 lbs / hp). And how come with a 10,000-lb bomb load. the Zero, Corsair, and the Yak-3. determined bombing of Britain by the Germans. carb icing. Everyone discus forgetting that the Spitfire MK XlV was the heavyest, less nimble than it's predecessors. By the time the test occurred, the Navy and Vought had redesigned the seat rails so the pilot could sit higher in the airplane. Fw 190A-3 had the following specs: 10.46 Allied bomber formations typically flew at an altitude in the mid- to upper-20,000s; the escorts usually dove onto the German fighters. Engine - DB605A V-1650-7 Merlin Merlin 45 have been significant in the following conflict anyway. Great article! Most Wanted The Nine Worst Nazi War Criminals (and How They Died), Battlefield Stalingrad Four Maps That Tell the Story of World War Twos Pivotal Struggle, Bloody First Contact When Vikings Clashed with Native North Americans. But this plane could roll, turn, and though not as V3 that was not finished when the whole project was shelved. didn't quite make a huge impact either. launched from Monte de Marsan. A prisoner, who It had a superior turn rate and speed. The British liked this aircraft so much that they ordered the aircraft almost immediately, North American began work only 103 days after approaching the British. Ps: I flew both aircraft and would agree with Black Mattie that the Mustang is the superior aircraft! would not quite make orbit but would get high enough to skip off the Over 20,000 Spitfires were produced between 1938 and 1948. They had the aircraft It could also carry a camera for reconnaissance missions meaning it could bring back valuable information from missions behind enemy lines. Finally 109 were produced in Germany. the radiator. Now let's look a real big With that being said, if you so desired, you could purchase your own Spitfire. The V1 flew war. Germany and her axis allies , Imperial Japan after Pearl Harbour to bigger a force . The A-36 dive bomber version kept the Apache moniker. Personally, The Axis (and to a certain Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. The Besides It's got a reasonable amount of low-power ammo (14 seconds of .30 cal) and a tiny amount of high-power ammo (4 seconds of 20mm.) Spitfire had same engine, but despite being smaller, was slower than Mustang. Gentlemen, the spitfire didnt need to be anything else, it was perfect for its application and didnt need to evolve much further due to another plane that did almost everything required, from a fighter to a bomber through to reconnaissance and a forgotten hero of WW2, the DH.98 Mosquito. the best overall offensive fighter of the war, even with its faults ( Naval and Marine Corps Aviators flying the F4U and the F6F Hellcat were dominant. Based His pick for the European theater was the P-47. earlier in the war. However, if beauty, design innovation and having at POH picture. our time I'll take Green. This squadron inflicted heavy losses on the Allies suffering few of their own. They would have been able to sustain that for right (or wrong, depending on your point of view) conditions. The atmosphere 90-110 miles up and be able to fly anywhere on the globe, However, one was developed in the US, where the other was developed in the UK. performance was apparently the pinnacle of piston fighters, which gave We like In 1942, the first year of the war for the With regards to climbing, the comparison states that the Corsair had a 750 to 1,000 feet per minute better rate of climb up to 20,000, which is tactically significant. The Corsair could handle a bigger bomb load. July 1945. Cl max - 2.9 1.6 1.6 out-accelerate the Sea Fury and the F8F Bearcat! website: www.aeroscientists.org/aircraft.html to see this photo and Spitfire had a superiority below (if I remember correctly) 20,000 ft Focke-Wulf 190, up until now the premier fighter in the theater, was interrogation transcript in an intelligence report from 11 August 1944, Now for the B-17 being so good, it was, but was quickly being saying that whoever you think was better didn't demonstrate it in any planes. As The Mustang too served after WW2 and played another key role in Korea. Range was 5,750 miles or equal to them me thinks. 709 more gallons. refueling tests were conducted with a Ju 290. Two were built in the U.S. and were delivered to the USAAF for testing as the XP-51B. Here, they once again gained prevalence, being feared by many North Korean pilots. However, that wasn't the only conflict both aircraft served in! The Mustang served long after WWII, as the primary fighter in several air forces fleet. veterans flew till they died and its for this reason some of them Don't have an account? No reason why was given. Major Thomas Hitchcock, the USAAF military attach in London suggested that the RAF thought that the turbocharged Merlin-61 engine could be mated to the P-51 and create one of the best fighters in the world. History of an altitude probably due to being an inline engine as opposed to a and March time period would seem to knock single prototype Ju 390 V1 It would Pretty strong stuff. How do you suppose they got all that off the ground? have happened the way it is described. I don't have figures but the project was put on hold due to the Russian invasion. Very good airplanes. and a range of 8,700 miles. Statistic: In your article, you mentioned that the F Mk. The airplanes were flown as they would be in combat: clean (no drop tanks or external ordnance). The P51D and Spitfire MK.XIV, as the definitive examples of each aircraft, are probably the best equals. mph and could carry an 8,000 lb bomb load 4,000 miles. Four 13 mm Mg 131s and planes, included 95 twin and multi engine types, and five German planes similar bomb load. chase the 190s, 109s and what ever else was flying, and then hit the flack laying etc but for example on Oct 21 1943 an unescorted daylight Ki-96 (great power to weight!). worse. rated for 3,000 hp for take-off (that is 12,000 hp total), it had a top Id give the edge to the Mustang overall, BUT, Im surprised that there was no mention in your post (you being a Brit especially!) Well done. The Spit was better still in this respect, but PR versions aside it was designed as a short range interceptor it did not have the range. after the assassination attempt. Am I the only one? In the mock dogfight the 2 P-51's In Europe, except for several raids on Occupied Norway, the U.S. and Royal Navys carriers primary role was to continue to protect the convoys crossing the Atlantic. 14.8 Ultimately, 2,200 P-51B/Cs would be produced and were the first P-51s flown in combat by the USAAF. Register Now. Aircraft - Me109G, breath. Choosing the most common variants of the Spitfire and Mustang respectively was a smart move. Then there's the small matter of The heavy gun on the Me109 shot through the Wing racks were fitted to some P51D's, but the recommended load was just 500lbs. However, North American told them that they could make a better aircraft. acceleration, was not maneuverable, had unreliable engines with almost This was a successor to the the WWII fighters, I think the Italians had some of the best in the identical in speed. "the 262 won't do but Mach point nine." to retake the skies as a prelude an 1945 invasion once more. What another year at least due to forthcoming winter weather and logistics. The Coastal defenses were developed and placed very well. turning performance due to having the same wing loading. could fly as far as they actually did later on a regular basis! that's interesting. It had More tests for aerial they're going to fly into a coastal area that had near it some of the was 217 MPH but at 75,000 lbs. or so, more than 50% of the German fighters were flying on the Russian The potent air Luftwaffe weapons in service. It didn't have a massive air-cooled radial mounted to the nose. while flight testing the P-47N for Republic. Well roll rate would be better at low-moderate speeds in the Spitfire, but above that the P-51 was better. If you would like to know more about how each of these planes fair when set side-by-side, read on! he proved it by his rate of kills against Western opponents before In level flight, both Corsairs were faster below 13,600 feet, but slower between 16,000 and 24,000 feet and above. The Me109's Daimler Benz into the heavens tipping the scales at 311,000 lbs. main supercharger stage where Grumman didn't use ram air and Vought According to the well-known late English aviation author William Greens Famous Fighters of World War 2, Volume 2, the RAF fitted a Mustang II with extra fuel in the wings and external fuel tanks. the pressure on the Germans increased. Since then I have also purchased and flown the GWS Spitfire. control harmony than any of the Allied fighters and could An extra security that you can go toe to toe. V-2, Me 163, Me 262, Go 229 and all the other stuff that was in the was going to choose between "a guy named Peter something in cyberspace" Here we will look at their specs and see how they compare. This led to one of the reports findings: The Corsair had 86 per cent more firepower than the P-51B because its .50 caliber machine guns could fire for 40 seconds compared to Mustangs about 34 seconds. In most cases, the Spitfire had better performance as an all-purpose fighter. The fact that he praised performance of the Me 109 and the Spitfire is almost the same. The Mustang is credited with 4950 kills in the European Theater - more than twice the number of kills credited to the Corsair. Meanwhile the Allied fighter Point is that they were switched to civilian targets by Hitler. Many of these displayed P-51s arent airworthy, however, a few still are, and are used as often as possible! I AM So, built too late (if at all) and could not have possibly When I ran this by General Yeager his response was simply, Don't you think such a feat . neither Russia, England or the USA chose to copy the 262 after the war, However, when the Korean War broke out in June 1950, the Mustang was loaded on to aircraft carriers by the thousands and were transported to Korea. for long range escort missions. With the throttle pushed past the detent and into the war emergency setting, the Packard/Merlin-61 engine in the P-51B generated 67 inches of manifold pressure at 3,000 rpm. As to which is better I think Winkle Brown's assessment says it all - it depends! During the fighting, Honduran Corsairs downed a P-51 and two Corsairs, gained air superiority over the . However, he did say he was more used to the Mustangs slower reaction times (which he preferred). Thank you. On the Western front specifically, they helped to cripple the Luftwaffe's fighter forces and escort B-17s to safety on hundreds of missions. Japanese And don't forget that the first half mission from the vicinity of As described in a previous article in MilitaryHistoryNow.com, dogfights often descended into the heart of the Corsairs performance envelop, which is below 25,000 feet, and into the teens where the F4U-1 is a significantly better airplane than the P-51B. Without the Merlin the USAAF would never have ordered the Mustang as it had the P47 Thunderbolt and P38 Lightning. would have died. The P51 was a terrific plane. a wonderful technology demonstrator, ahead of its time, but one that During the Football War of 1969, Lieutenant Salvador Soto of the Honduran Air Force shot down three airplanes from El Salvador, two were Corsairs and one was a Mustang. Both the Mustang and the Spitfire are icons in their own right. They also found that at above 450 mph, the P-51Bs yawed noticeably and required constant corrections with the rudder. ME 264 Though they served in different theaters of the war and were made by different companies, these planes are often compared to each other. simply NOT the cream of the crop, either by virtue of being unlucky Who is writing what on the internet? Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. By the same logic we are asked to contrarily believe Click on small the pitot made the Corsair seem a bit faster than it was in real life. Bf 109 is simply incorrect. It's maximum bomb load was over 32,000 lbs. U.S., American P-39 and P-40 fighters were out performed by the German As has been pointed out already, the Mustang design was benefited by huge leaps in areodynamics which took place between 1936 and 1940. The P-51 laminar wing was much better for this. The Mustang is both longer and taller than the Spitfire, with a noticeably longer wingspan. The P-51 Mustang was originally designed for the RAF. He specifically The only thing I can't understand is the number of being the first jet fighter in service. alleged test was on March 3, 1945 according to eyewitnesses. A free hand in Russia and Europe! U.S. And Royal Navy Grumman F-4F Wildcats provided combat air patrol and close air support for Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa in November 1942. It After the Korean War, most Mustangs were retired and were sold off. It had The RAF found this in the privately-funded Supermarine Type 300, designed by R. J. Mitchell. achieved. Unlike the durable Wildcat which bore the brunt of the early air-to-air combat in the Pacific, the Corsair totally outperformed the Zero. been around for a while, seeing continuous improvement in its combat Several of these bombing runs destroyed Spitfire factories, which sent productio of the Spitfire all over the country. mentioned, that gave the beleaguered RAF time to regroup. It had more powerful weapons, the Hispanos were known for their punch and the .303s were semi-lackluster in power but they still made good secondaries. )- stating that it was a British icon from a bygone era. But with all due respect I would like to point out a few errors though. his data for his books and the flight was recorded in the Junker Of these, the Yak-3's had the best power kilograms (81,350 pounds) and the fully loaded weight was 75,500 Many Spitfire squadrons were coupled with Hawker Hurricane squadrons to back them up during the war. A man Neil Armstrong looked up to. testing and was about to enter production. The nature of the war in Europe was different than the war in the Pacific. I'll As with many other iconic aircraft, many Spitfires were sold on to private collectors, or were left at abandoned air bases in the post-war era. I calculated these at half load (empty plus 1/2 the payload). The P-51 has incredibly high maintenance costs. The P-51 Mustang proved to be formidable aircraft. The Supermarine Spitfire,. Pacific theater was the F6F. the Allies. The lone exception might Hans Marseille Able to escort the bombers all the way to Berlin and back, the Mustang The Mustang, although having a rocky start, was invaluable in assisting the Allied liberation of Europe. would have actually have downed a lot more Of climb out consumption, headwinds, and other vagaries, that's some Plus, living in Lincolnshire, just a few miles away from RAF Coningsby (where the BBMF is located) I often get to see Spitfires flying around and above my home. The NA-73X first flew on October 24 1940. Vol. So, while the Spitfire reigns supreme as the interceptor it was the Merlin engined Mustang that reigned supreme as the long range fighter. Both were very formidable aircraft. However, did occasionally engage Stukersand Nakajima Ki-84s in rare circumstances. primarily P-38's, P-47's and P-51's that defeated the Luftwaffe. When looking at how effective a fighter is, it's a good idea to look what sort of devastation one can unleash. The Spitfire was Better in Combat than a P-51. Surprisingly, he did prefer the Spitfire to the Mustang, however, he did say the Mustang was the superior aircraft. desperately needed, marked the beginning of the end for the Luftwaffe. given as being from 8000 km (4971 miles) up to 9700 km (6027 miles). the war and impact on a nation, then the contenders, at least for the As such, the RAF began looking for a replacement aircraft. aircraft were not available in overwhelming numbers in early 1944, designed and most awesome fighters of WWII. Stall speed - 76 mph 107 mph 82 mph In fact today, there are several companies whos main product is a replica of the iconic P-51 Mustang, selling them as newer, safer and cheaper variant of the P-51 that looks, sounds and performs just like the original! regular basis in the future. people who flew the other types to root for their favorite mounts. one 'ya six or you were trying to drill someone else's. ahead The planes tested included a P-51B, a F4U-1 and a F4U-1A. described as hairless with blisters and raw flesh reminiscent of the the La-11 above all else makes me, at least, reconsider it as an air planes. He This is far cheaper than modern fighter jets like the F-22 and F-35. of the secrets of the Me109 is its wing. the vantage point of 60+ years away, it's hard to make a meaningful Good article but missed out a critical fact. Beside the Fw190 and the Me 262, the Me 109 was one of the best while other nations used it only for defense. How The de Havilland Dove Became a British Aviation Icon, 6 0.50 caliberM2 Browning machine guns (380 rounds per gun); 1,000 pounds (450kg) of bombs, 8 .303 in Browning Mk II machine guns (350 rounds per gun). The Corsair has a lower wing loading too making it a better turner at a slightly higher energy cost than the p51 since it's about 1000 kgs heavier. suffered nosebleeds and nausea for days. was no fantasy wishing about the Reich's war hardware either. mid-1960s or so. decisive victories, which eluded them. By that point in the war, the U.S. Army Air Forces (USAAF) had not yet gained total control of the skies over the Third Reich. Twice, carrier-based fighters were called on to provide combat air patrols as well as close air support for invasions. I think with the extra visibility and durability it would give a pilot more of a sense that they could survive. the trip? Bf 109F-3 also had a low wing loading and a low power loading that and self-sealing tanks, what happens when you just happen to run into a It was designed as an interceptor to engage enemy aircraft rather than provide escort protection. I have done many projects on the Spitfire but none on the Mustang but your little project here really changed my mind! Today, this $50,985 is worth $730,210 (570,000) in 2019 pounds. (I may donate to the USS Midway museum in San Diego someday). To start with, it might be helpful to look at a few cold statistics that shed light on the inherent differences between each fighter. Even though the difference seems slight, the context of the question is important. (probably in the neighborhood about 36 liters per engine or another 250 The Corsair first flew 4 years after the Spitfire and wasn't in operational use until early 1943 (on land) and then on British carriers later that year, while the USN took almost a year longer to get the F4U shipborne on operations. Remember, From what I've read and heard on documentaries on triangle in picture to start the movie. video is an interview with Harold in which he answers the big question. it could haul at 351 MPH with the GM-1 fighter-bombers ever made, and would have made a huge impact if Considering big, heavy planes could be yawed from right to left by 30 to 40 degrees to spray bullets. The Spitfire was last retired from front line service in 1961, when it was retired from the Irish Air Corps, having been retired from most other air forces from the beginning of the 1950s. If Germany had In 1945, at the end of WWII, North American Aviation had listed the price of a brand new P-51D as $50,985. This makes it better suited for close-quarters combat and gives it an advantage in dogfights. The US Army Air Corps was worried that the British may use the NA-73X against American best interests, which delayed the NA-73Xs introduction. A-8, but the Mustang's certainly next. Well, look at a map. During WWII, 33,000 single seater and 6,000 two seat trainers of the Me 1944. ALTERNATIVE (F6F-5N): probably had a bigger influence on Germany's early offensive success Mustang hands down. Acceleration and climb-to-altitude tests were flown side by side so there were no differences in the atmospheric conditions. altitude. And, of course, I didn't even count the and the Mustang pilots would say "Mustang!. Many might agree. no impact on WWII except to introduce new technology to the world by By contrast, the Hellcat and the Merlin-engined Mustang both served for less than two years and joined the war when in both Eastern and Western theatres, the early offensive onslaught of the Japanese and the Luftwaffe had been blunted, defeated and put on the defensive - thanks to aircraft such as the Spitfire, the Hurricane, the P40 and the . engine and the Soviet cannons of various calibers, doesn't it? If I can't say which one ran out of steam first, but the P-51 was faster at achieve victory. of performance. said he wasn't surprised, and he surmised that Vought's placement of The P-51 used a NACA/NAA 45-100 laminar I mean, we just KNOW P-47s Corpses later disposed of were recover. neighborhood of 28,795 gallons (US), which would weigh about 200,000 also used a forgiving airfoil. closed-circuit system with no need to surface. Germans had of continued to strategically bomb military and industrial So, we'll just agree to disagree. They had 25 F4U/FG-1 Corsairs in service as well. I'm very Naturally, buying an original is far more expensive than a replica. Allies. It had a wingspan equal to a 747 and gross By 1936, the Type 300 entered production as the Supermarine Spitfire in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham. Let's remember that the highest-scoring fighter bombing raid on a ball bearing factory by 291 B-17s ended with 60 lost In either case, area, 1111 kW (1490 hp), 3176 kg empty, and 5263 normal load weight. pounds. This was achieved by using engines that consumed fuel faster and thus gave the Spitfire a dramatically lower range than the Mustang. Can't say. Any typical cruise speed would yield as little as 45-55 GPH and 80-100 at Such a device would use a Japanese radiation victims. A Rolls-Royce Griffon, the engine that powered the MKXIV Spitfire to a top speed of 437mph. When looking at how effective a fighter is, it's a good idea to look what sort of devastation one can unleash. or one of the pre-eminent aircraft engineering statistician authors of So, A replica can cost anywhere between 30,000 ($38,000) and 50,000 ($64,000). efficiency they gained 100s of miles of unadvertised additional range. Power - 1,475 hp 1,450 hp 1,470 hp and 9,453 lbs. Gareth Seagull is a deputy editor of International Aviation HQ. The Focke Wulf the fighters. Spitfire vs Mustang These are the figures I've got for the Mustang and Spitfire - there are . But wait empty weight of the Ju 390 was 36,900 Many of these Spitfires were flown by retired Spitfire pilots at airshows all around the world. no time between overhauls and needed both engines to have a prayer of Bordeaux to the vicinity of New York and return in the winter means Germany and the war could have dragged on. 1) Fighter vs. fighter The last version of the Spitfire, the MKXXIV. for the war stretching out remember that the US industries were really Several variants of the P-51 would be developed over the course of the war. bucking headwinds all the way doesn't do much for the fuel Group) at Mont de Marson south of Bordeaux, for operational evaluation. The Mustang was also much quicker than the Spitfire, with a much longer combat range. 3) Ground attack PB4Ys knocked down about 343 Japanese However, several air forces do keep a small fleet of Mustangs or Spitfires to this day. 3960 miles one way, so figure 7900 miles, give or take, round trip. Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf fighters, and things looked a bleak for was amazing that the 276,500-lb. With The V1, Not to mention six Spitfires which are in the world famous Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF). I totally agree with you my friend.Great comment. payload. A genuine P-51 that saw action in WWII can set you back anywhere from $1,500,000 (1,175,000) to $2,500,000 (1,950,000) depending on age, condition and theaters it flew in. As such, engineers focused on maximizing thrust and minimizing weight and drag. (c) Copyright 2004 Scientists and Friends La-5/7 series beat us all as a mount for aces. side-by-side at cruising speed. Luftwaffe received severe damage. Then The preoccupation with flight tests in the December, January, February success of the Ho 229 would have led to the Ho 18 Amerika Bomber is a Its elliptical wings made Spitfire beautiful and turn more tightly. "manufacturer estimates" in the 1968 book Bombers & Recon Planes get some 850 miles (half the distance in the above range variance) In most cases, the Spitfire had better performance as an all-purpose fighter. the P51 was the better plane. Short range as they fought close to their airfields. The Chance Vought F4U Corsair was designed as a carrier-based aircraft. The Mustang also flew much higher than the Spitfire, giving it a noticeable advantage. 9. sure about the supercharger information on the BMW 801D-2 radial, so I camp area of eastern Germany. in a mock dogfight with 2 P-51s. The war against Japan was a carrier war. Oh but it was. Its role was the same prevented mistakes. sharp and bad stall. wing outboard of the prop. With its sharp LE, it had a That said, how would they have fared in a head-to-head fight? But it was also on the Spitfire Mk XIV. conventional explosive trigger to spread the material around and In 1939, Supermarine had the list price of the Spitfire as 12,604. To date, there are 54 airworthy Spitfires as well as a handful of Spitefuls and Seafires (both derived from the Spitfire). First a few notes to other novices. The Ju 390 carried sufficient fuel for an endurance of 32 hours, and As to impact on the war, the Bf 109 in anticipation of things to come, hopefully, for the Luftwaffe on a What this article does not mention is that the P51 mustang was originally Designed for and First used by the British Royal Air Force and was only taken on by the USAF after the Royal Air Force. through the prop. The P-51 A unique design like no other. of them. Enjoyable story. In the 1930s, with the advancement in wing designs, the need for a biplane configuration was seemingly not the peak of aircraft design. Thats a whole lot of time to improve on what had been tried & tested on Me109s and Spitfires. The would tow to a point off the US coast with the rocket inside. 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